at least the bnp is honest about being a bunch of racists. whereas one never knows where exactly you stand with all these other british bastards….should say the same holds from most modern politicians actually. lips move but they actually tell you what you want to hear, not what they really think.
how do you know a politician is lying? their lips are moving.
Having lived in London for three years I was totally impressed with the way in which British television openly discussed contentious issues in a relatively unbiased fashion i.e. allowing politicians of all persuasions to air their views. Coming from South Africa and the type of closed regime of that time, I was deeply moved by this level of debate and consciousness. Watching level 5 of this series confirms that they continue to uphold democracy in its most viable and enlightened form. So for me it is not about right or wrong but about adhering to principles that govern human interaction. What I found most important about the right wing debate (and particularly thinking of the current resurgent xenophobia - black nationalism - here in South Africa as represented by Julius Malema) was the concerns of what might happen should a right wing mindset (of a far more militant type than Nick Griffin) come into power. This debate has been simmering for well over 30 years, and I was treated very much as an unwelcome immigrant even then!!
Here in South Africa we seem to be treating Julius Malema as a joke, while he goes around gaining support and influence. We need to ask ourselves why it is that Malema speaks so intuitively to the post apartheid black youth of this country. He is potentially ruining their lives and all of us in south africa by preaching a form of pre-democratic prejudice. Have we not just come out of this as represented by the apartheid regime? Two wrongs do not make a right. The Nationalist Party pursued mediocrity with such determination it was surely only to make them look sharp-witted!! And here we have Malema making Zuma look mild. Having just been teaching at a predominantly black school where the majority of learns come from Umlazi, I can only say that Julius is sending out a terrible terrible message that flies in the face of the very values expressed in this debate. The learners are mostly unenlightened - threatened by knowledge! What this says about our education system is of course another issue!
October 24th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
at least the bnp is honest about being a bunch of racists. whereas one never knows where exactly you stand with all these other british bastards….should say the same holds from most modern politicians actually. lips move but they actually tell you what you want to hear, not what they really think.
how do you know a politician is lying? their lips are moving.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Having lived in London for three years I was totally impressed with the way in which British television openly discussed contentious issues in a relatively unbiased fashion i.e. allowing politicians of all persuasions to air their views. Coming from South Africa and the type of closed regime of that time, I was deeply moved by this level of debate and consciousness. Watching level 5 of this series confirms that they continue to uphold democracy in its most viable and enlightened form. So for me it is not about right or wrong but about adhering to principles that govern human interaction. What I found most important about the right wing debate (and particularly thinking of the current resurgent xenophobia - black nationalism - here in South Africa as represented by Julius Malema) was the concerns of what might happen should a right wing mindset (of a far more militant type than Nick Griffin) come into power. This debate has been simmering for well over 30 years, and I was treated very much as an unwelcome immigrant even then!!
Here in South Africa we seem to be treating Julius Malema as a joke, while he goes around gaining support and influence. We need to ask ourselves why it is that Malema speaks so intuitively to the post apartheid black youth of this country. He is potentially ruining their lives and all of us in south africa by preaching a form of pre-democratic prejudice. Have we not just come out of this as represented by the apartheid regime? Two wrongs do not make a right. The Nationalist Party pursued mediocrity with such determination it was surely only to make them look sharp-witted!! And here we have Malema making Zuma look mild. Having just been teaching at a predominantly black school where the majority of learns come from Umlazi, I can only say that Julius is sending out a terrible terrible message that flies in the face of the very values expressed in this debate. The learners are mostly unenlightened - threatened by knowledge! What this says about our education system is of course another issue!
I hope we wake up, if it is already not too late!
October 24th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
“anybody can see it, its on youtube.”
fantastic videos