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this article first appeared on joburgcentral.co.za

gabrielle provaas, aryan kaganof, sofie knijff, amsterdam

gabrielle provaas, wendela scheltema, rob schroder

by kind invitation of rob schroder i will be giving a guest lecture at the sandberg institute on the subjects of autonomy and bankruptcy. these are both subjects that i know a lot about. all welcome.

aryan kaganof

sandberg.nl

1.Posted by nooitaf on Oct 02 2009 at 20:14

super actie !! … maar het is interlaced
Warning!

2.Posted by StewBalls on Oct 07 2009 at 14:09

After the way they treated those poor prawns they should be ashamed of themselves in Jo’burg! :p

3.Posted by Chris_P on Oct 07 2009 at 16:09

Funny ******* StewBalls!

4.Posted by Oh-Bummer on Oct 07 2009 at 18:09

Very good docu, Quicktime format with great picture and sound. Interesting to see a part of the world I likely won’t get to visit. Need some more “Dutch guys” in Jo’burg!

5.Posted by pearldrums on Oct 07 2009 at 18:15

I have been in Jo’burg, nad its not that bad at all…!! p***

6.Posted by krangsquared on Oct 08 2009 at 01:49

Just to avoid any confusion, this is NOT the short film that was created by Neill Blomkamp, director of District 9. His short film is similarly named, “Alive in Joburg”, and is only 6 minutes long, and is available here: (url removed)

Don’t download this if that’s all you’re after. Don’t make my mistake! I thought there would be prawns here and there were none. Serves me right for not reading the description.

7.Posted by geoffphuket on Oct 08 2009 at 04:46

Unusual for documentary to be in .mov format, but not a problem

8.Posted by Vi10x on Oct 08 2009 at 09:34

Lol i live in jhb kinda, and its not such a bad place. hahaha who am i kidding. This place sux ****.

9.Posted by BabaMugabe on Oct 08 2009 at 09:53

Wot a load of c**p this film jus tries to be negative about Africans.I live in Glasgow n its a worse place that Joburg

10.Posted by jolico on Oct 08 2009 at 10:03

Glasgow, you wouldn’t last a minute in Jo’burg.

11.Posted by Metop on Oct 08 2009 at 14:01

Only one year to go. I can’t see a World Cup being held in South Africa. Much like London 2012 it will be a total desaster.

12.Posted by 07Shadow07 on Oct 08 2009 at 18:02

woot South Africans here, :p

13.Posted by carlspurg on Oct 08 2009 at 18:51

Good documentary,recommended.BabbaMugabe,how is this negative to Africans?? did you watch this?

14.Posted by PhilemonUmkaka on Oct 08 2009 at 19:12

Weird seeing the place like this. We cannot blame the boer or murungu for the state of the place, its down to us Africans.

15.Posted by rodime on Oct 08 2009 at 20:46

lol@Babamugabe: You really think anyone takes comments seriously from anyone named mugabe?

16.Posted by Appleyard on Oct 09 2009 at 00:03

I just got home from the cinema after watching District 9, so this seemed like a funny coincidence.

17.Posted by tidydan on Oct 09 2009 at 00:34

Thanks for keeping this at the top, I would’ve missed it otherwise. Egoli’s an alright place, not the safest maybe, but neither’s Rio. I hear downtown’s on its way back up again, and the World Cup will help, glad the greatest show on earth will be in my old home town.

18.Posted by ffilou6 on Oct 09 2009 at 01:01

I heard there are more dangerous places (not sure of the names) Skidrow? and Compton? in Los Angeles, Poughkeepsie? in New York, a district near Paris in France, Napoli in Italy…

19.Posted by livepinkpepper on Oct 09 2009 at 04:58

Thank you for the upload!

20.Posted by Ghanaman on Oct 09 2009 at 09:43

Anywhere is dangerous if you are stupid, you can get mugged in Oslo if you want to!

21.Posted by jprheeder on Oct 09 2009 at 14:16

EK FOKKEN HAAT DIE KAFFIRS HIER IN SUID AFRIKA!!! N KLOMP HOUDKOPPE!!! DIE PRAWNS IS DIE POES KAFFIRS.

translate that.

22.Posted by truthstar on Oct 09 2009 at 15:16

jprheeder, you are a class A nob chana jou dom kaal voet klonkie!

If I had to guess you are probably as useless as your last comment, and have a IQ less than a Baby Prawn.

I feel terrible that I am actually commenting on your post, but thought F it, it will make my day.

Joburg aint that bad if you street smart, smart enough to not go mess around in area’s that you should not be in.

Documentaries always paint a bad picture because they are focusing on life in the city, not on the normal people living and working around the city.

Joburg aint no Dubai but I can tell you every city has it slums and dirty under belly.

23.Posted by freepan_sweethot on Oct 09 2009 at 15:46

ever one must c.

24.Posted by JamesBongg on Oct 09 2009 at 17:28

good quality, but super boring. like seriously, really really really boring. worse than watching paint dry. I had to turn it off and delete it about half way 3/4 of the way through.

25.Posted by skyfalldown on Oct 09 2009 at 20:12

I have just started downloading this and thank the uploader, the director,actor and every other person involved with this project!Should be an eye opener to the masses.People say things are exaggerated when it comes to Joburg-I say ********! I’ve lived there for a year and was attacked at 5pm by an “individual”. Shame really. But thanks again Uploader!

26.Posted by skyfalldown on Oct 09 2009 at 20:16

And I just read what Truthstar said:Brilliant. I live in Dubai and then moved to Jozi for training. You see, one can avoid the areas but then the criminals don’t confine themselves to a particular place.

27.Posted by daytaps on Oct 09 2009 at 20:51

i was stripped naked on sunday in jhb. phone,R100,shoes, belt,necklace.
but they were man enough to leave my house keys.

28.Posted by daytaps on Oct 09 2009 at 21:01

the place is infested with street kids who grab every chance to stay alive.
the gov is in denial.

29.Posted by daytaps on Oct 09 2009 at 23:49

:( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’( :’(

30.Posted by gremke on Oct 10 2009 at 00:50

Cant watch this movie without Quicktime?

31.Posted by Appleyard on Oct 10 2009 at 03:12

Ghanaman: Mugged in Oslo? Of course you can.. Oslo is the capital of Norway, and also the largest city in the country. But I’ve been to Oslo many times in my life, and I’ve never worried about getting mugged or beaten up by some random criminal. Norway in general is a very safe country to live in, if you compare with other countries. I’m not saying that Oslo is completely safe, but no one goes around worrying about crime there.

31.Posted by Seether13 on Oct 10 2009 at 08:21

I haven’t watched this yet, but i am 34 yo and lived in jhb my whole life. I have never been even in an attempted mugging or anything alike. You just need to be streetwise.

32.Posted by masturgrater on Oct 10 2009 at 08:43

@Gremke, if you don’t have Quicktime (free) installed, then get VLC player for free from videolan.org

It plays virtually EVERY video format.

33.Posted by FrankyT on Oct 10 2009 at 09:12

I live in JHB. Just last night there were 2 hi-jackings down the road from me, literally like 400m from my house. The neighbourhood watch told me this when I heard sounds in the garden and called them. One of their team was shot multiple times during an attempted house robbery AND THEN I saw this morning that there were a newly painted green stripe painted on the pavement outside my house. This is an indicator for the armed robbers to attack you and to say you have no weapons (green=safe), they are mistaken and I don’t care about blowing them to hell. I could list 100’s of stories from people that I personally know and those aren’t good stats.

This was all in 1 night so yes, be street smart but don’t think that it’s enough, I have also had a gun pointed at my head for my car and been chased a couple of times. If you want to be safe, try living on a different continent.

34.Posted by tyskie on Oct 10 2009 at 11:42

why .mov format which ****s even on Mac?

35.Posted by AxMaN on Oct 10 2009 at 19:33

Never lived in Jo’burg but I have visited, its certainly not a safe place for sure. Having been to several other countries I can say for sure South Africa was by far the most dangerous. Not hard to get dead there at all but almost worth it for the beautiful scenery in other areas of the country, and of course the worlds best beef ****y.

36.Posted by AxMaN on Oct 10 2009 at 19:37

wow “jurky” is censored lol shoulda said biltong!

37.Posted by jinx74 on Oct 10 2009 at 21:52

I grow up in Johannesburg, was never like this used to be much better.
it all depends where you stay in Johannesburg some areas are better, but Johannesburg is still very unsafe.

38.Posted by jackta on Oct 10 2009 at 21:58

This video only portrays the (CBD)Central Bussiness Distric,and Bertrams..if you know Joburg,then you will know this video is a lot of cr_p,crime in Joburg and the rest of SA is out fo control(fact of life).

So to all the street wise comments(fact is you dont leave your houses at nite)sh_t scared..
To truthstar.***`s not chana,it`s china.***reet wise punk..
God help the poor football fans(foreign)i`m sure they will never venture back into Africa again,after the World Cup,SA will never see a tourist on it`s shores again..And it`s not Joburg.***`s Johannesburg..my chana :.)

En ja ek is a boer..

39.Posted by CayCoo on Oct 10 2009 at 23:37

En…. as hy wil sê chana kan hy mos sê chana!

wtf

40.Posted by defconsuperpower on Oct 11 2009 at 03:06

Very good documentary.
:)

41.Posted by Isobel_NZSouth on Oct 11 2009 at 08:59

Thanks for the documentary, is is possible that this has been dubbed in English?

No worries if it hasn’t

42.Posted by Seether13 on Oct 11 2009 at 09:24

jackta, maybe you sit in your house whole night, but that is you. Nobody i know are scared to go out at night. “Streetwise” means you don’t go to the CBD at night, it means you go to all the nice places that are much safer than the CBD. You can basically take any main cities worldwide and there is slums and very unsafe areas. It is not unique to Jhb.

Fact is crime is out of control, but not to the point that i am scared at all to live in my beautiful country.

45.Posted by Seblat5ch on Oct 11 2009 at 13:35

i drove through the CBD has to go to close to rand airport and i drove in a convertible with my flatscreen tv.. had to get it repaired it is not that bad and the BRT is not that bad ether

46.Posted by oomskaap on Oct 11 2009 at 16:08

if you guys liked this, i recommend a much better documentary released last month called ” BBC***w.and.Disorder.2of4.In.Johannesburg ”

just search mininova for ” BBC***w.and.Disorder.2of4.In.Johannesburg ”

cheers

47.Posted by oomskaap on Oct 11 2009 at 16:09

“BBC Law and Disorder.2of4.In.Johannesburg ” is here on Mininova, a much better documentary about Johannesburg’s crime

48.Posted by jargon7 on Oct 11 2009 at 21:25

Please man, I work for the police in JHB area, it is quite bad, but like one of the poster said, if you’re street smart, then you’;; be fine!!!

Not as bad as everyone says it is….. blah

48.Posted by miaruehl3 on Oct 12 2009 at 04:28

@23 james bongg I agree, this documentary was not made well at all, could have been very interesting, I had to turn it off too, I agree wiht @46 and @47 much better documentary by louis theron who works for the bbc, very well made much more interesting, and shows real corruption, and the extreme circumstances of its resident. If you took the time to watch this, you must watch the other one, you won’t believe the difference.

49.Posted by doris1873 on Oct 12 2009 at 09:39

greenocks way mental than jhb , bring it on ya weee scardies

51.Posted by Ouji-San on Oct 12 2009 at 12:08

I live in Cape Town stuff JHB…

Its bad everywhere. Prob worse in JHB especially the CITY area but yeah.

be street Smart and avoid dodgy places. If you walk around flash ***** your going to get robbed.

54.Posted by Thayk on Oct 13 2009 at 07:10

is this the place where they gonna house us come World Cup 2010? no way. im not coming. ill gonna miss that date.

55.Posted by astroajb on Oct 15 2009 at 00:19

name one major city in the world which claims the freedom of its people but struggles with managing the free will of man.
Johannesburg is colorful but real place. It does not hide it’s belly yet allows you feel the warmth of a golden city.

56.Posted by StoIIVIIpeD on Oct 17 2009 at 19:45

this movie ****s big time… i thought it would be more extreme, so socialist and boring

57.Posted by leecher on Oct 18 2009 at 19:39

It says it’s english audio but it’s not! There are just english subtitles

58.Posted by leecher on Oct 19 2009 at 01:46

Sorry, it is mostly in english, just the begining is non english. I bet the downtown of the safest city in South Africa, Pretoria, looks like Jo-burg now as well.

these comments all posted on http://www.mininova.org/com/3001695

all photos by aryan kaganof

Johannesburg is de grootste economische metropool van Afrika. De binnenstad is echter één van de meest gewelddadige gebieden van de wereld. De meeste kantoorpanden staan leeg of zijn gekraakt en worden bewoond door diverse groepen illegale Afrikanen uit naburige landen. Duizenden gelukzoekers proberen er een nieuw bestaan op te bouwen in de wetteloosheid van deze stedelijke jungle.

De stad maakt zich intussen op voor het WK- voetbal in 2010, hier kan Johannesburg zich op een positieve manier aan de wereld tonen. De binnenstad wordt schoongeveegd en er wordt alles aan gedaan om dit grootse evenement probleemloos te laten verlopen. Maar gaat dit lukken? En welke gevolgen heeft dit voor al die duizenden immigranten?

Rob Schröder is vanaf januari 2008 meerdere malen naar Johannesburg gegaan om de veranderingen in beeld te brengen. Is het mogelijk om deze stad vol hoop en angst te controleren en de binnenstad veilig en leefbaar te maken?

Hoe kun je überhaupt overleven in Johannesburg?

Deze documentaire is vanaf 23 september een week lang op het digitale kanaal Holland Doc 24 te zien.

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Izwa nje idolobha lonkana liyanyakaza
Nabantu bonkana bayanyakaza
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Ngiyinsizwa eyisoka, anginasikhathi sesicamtho
Umculo uyashisa, nesimame siyashisa
Kudala bedlala ngami kusukea ngizalwa
Kodwa sek’lungile, kuqondile
Noma ungangilahla umqondo
Singazama ukuwuqonda
Umthelela wamaphepha endodeni
Ungaba umfowethu
Ungaba umama wethu
Uyohlalal’uphila, uyohlalal’ uphila

Izwa nje idolobha lonkana liyanyakaza
Nabantu bonkana bayanyakaza
Sohlala s’phila, sohlala s’phila
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Sohlala s’phila
Sohlala s’phila
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Sohlala s’phila

Lempilo yize, ime ndawonye
Ngicela ning’size.
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Sohlala s’phila
Lempilo yize, ime ndawonye.
Ngicela ning’size.
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Sohlala s’phila

photo jabu mxhaka

a documentary by rob schroder
featuring ismail farouk and zack sejaphala

direction, camera & editing - rob schroder
sound recordist - jabu mxhaka
online editing - chris van oers
research - shiuan-wen chu
commissioning editor - george brugmans and barbara truyen
produced by aryan kaganof, ilse van huisstede and karin vermeulen
for vpro television

jabu mxhaka, rob schroder and ismail farouk, yeoville, 12 june 2009

rosalie manning & aryan kaganof, crosby, june 2009

aryan kaganof and zaide harneker, crosby, june 2009